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Mr. Ramachandran, Mr. Bhave, Mr. Virendra Kumar,
Mr. Sinha, my dear friends from BHEL, Ladies and
Gentlemen,
I am very grateful to Mr. KG Ramachandran, CMD of
BHEL, Mr. S.C.Sinha, Chief Vigilance Officer,
BHEL for inviting me for the third time in succession
to be with you for this Vigilance Conference of
BHEL. First time, it was in Trichy in 1999, last
year in Bhopal and this year in Hyderabad. When
I came here, I asked Mr. Ramachandran, this Place
Ramachandrapuram is in honour of you being CMD.
He says there’s already a Ramachandrapuram
and BHEL has got a Ramachandran to head it. But
anyhow, we are now meeting at a very appropriate
time. The theme chosen is also very challenging.
"The emerging challenges for Vigilance"
Vigilance for Quality, Competitiveness and Productivity.
To understand this, we have to realise that BHEL
is an enterprise which is in business. It is a
business enterprise. It is one of the very respected
Navaratna Public Sector Enterprises. I think you
must have heard the story of Margaret Thatcher.
What difference does it make to make a Quality
Product and the Company that doesn’t make
a quality product. Margaret Thatcher's answer
is very simple. She says if the company produces
Quality Products the customer will come back .
If not, the Product will come back. So, it is
very simple.
If you are in business, of course what is business,
Peter Drucker says Business is ultimately an exercise
to create a customer and retain him. Now this
is where the Public Sector enterprise like BHEL
having lot of problem. So when Margaret Thatcher
says if we do not produce quality products the
product will come back, the customer will not
come back. Therefore, the first thing we realise
is in a competitive environment, unless our product
has quality, we cannot compete. But then, if there
is is no quality there is no competitiveness.
But where does productivity come in. Suppose you
produce so much that is not competitive and your
productivity is not high then you lose. You may
gain in quality and because of quality you may
say you can compete but ultimately every enterprise
exists it is based on the bottom line. Whether
it is able to have market capitalization, whether
it is able to meet the demands of the stake holders,
because every enterprise there may be share holders,
employees, society whatever.
:So we therefore realise that for a business enterprise
whatever is the quality of product or services,
it is giving quality which is important, otherwise,
it cannot have the customer. If we cannot have
the customer, it cannot be competitive. But then
if you are not able to be productive in the sense
you must be able to produce quality goods and
services with a price that is affordable to customer
then only you can exist as an enterprise. So we
can understand that. Now vigilance generally is
thought of as something called fault-finding or
even Mr. Sinha referred it. A sort of a gap in
perception and so on. We are all the time looking
at the angle of corruption, malpractices and so
on. Actually, I have done 2 years 9 months as
CVC. I have started saying, I am becoming more
and more like a Duryodhana. Yudhishtara and Duryodhana
are asked by Narada to go and find out how many
honest persons are there? Yudhishtara goes and
says oh.. every person is honest. Duryodhana goes
and reports that every person in Hyderabad is
corrupt. It is given in Mahabharata. It is a story
to show, the world appears to you, the way you
are. Having been CVC for the last 2 years 9 months,
every file I deal, every complaint I deal it is
only corruption. So, I am becoming more and more
like Duryodhana. If you ask me how many fellows
are honest? I would say we will have to find out.
Now this is one perception that Vigilance is there
looking at aspects of Corruption, mal-practices
etc. Whereas a business enterprise is to look
into quality,Productivity and Competitiveness.
How can the Vigilance be helpful in this. In fact
in my paper which has been circulated to all of
you, Mukesh Ambani, the CMD of the most successful
Private Sector Reliance Industry, was asked by
Department of Personnel, I think on an idea by
Arun Shourie , that we should have lectures by
sucessful businessmen to come and tell us ideas
that have worked. So every one month or two months
they organised these lectures at Delhi. So one
lecture was that based on Reliance experience,
Mr. Mukesh Ambani is asked to come and talk. Mukesh
Ambani spoke about the Reliance experience, particularly
the fact that Reliance has put up the largest
Green Field Refinery in Jam Nagar. And what he
said was that in Reliance Petroleum, 40% of the
employees are from the Public Sector. And he went
on to say that the same human capital is available
with the Public Sector. But then the perception
is that Public Sector is not efficient.
You know I was Chairman, Public Sector Enterprise
Selection Board and I was interviewing for the
post of Director (Finance) in Kudremukh. So one
candidate came. I asked him, there is a rumour
probably Kudremukh has disinvested. So what will
you do if we select you as Director (Finance).?
Then this candidate said that if this is disinvested
and if it becomes Private Company, I will have
to become efficient. So, that means he thinks,
so long as it is Public Sector, he need not be
efficient. It is one perception.
Now go back to what Mukesh Ambani says. Forty percent
of my people are from Public Sector. They are
now working in Reliance and they are able to do
these wonderful things putting up the Green Fields
site, cost over-run , time over-run etc. They
are making money. Now he has suggested therefore
in his speech as reported in the press that according
to Ambani, Government should free managements
of Public Enterprises capable of creating wealth
from the pressure of agencies like CVC, CAG and
CBI etc. I always readily agree our Public Sector
Enterprises are Super Draupadis. Draupadi has
only five husbands to manage. But Public Sector
has got 7 husbands to manage. What are the seven?
First with Board of Directors ofthe enterprise,
Administration, Ministry, Public Accounts Committee,
COPU then Sani, Rahu and Kethu called CVC, CAG
and CBI. So our Public Sector people Ramachandran,
Mittal and all others, they have to be Super Draupadis
and merge to be competitive in the market and
that too Quality, Competitiveness and Productivity.
All this and we have got Vigilance also. So in
this sphere, we have got to explore how is that
we are to balance all these things to be a competitive
enterprise. with Vigilance watching every movement
of our’s can we be successful?
Therefore, what I am going to do in the next 20-25
minutes is to take through an exercise to a different
perception. Is Vigilance all that bad? Is vigilance
an alibi for non-performance. Let us answer Mukesh
Ambani’s points go further. Before we do
this, I thought we should learn from Bhagavadgita,
in the second chapter of Bhagavadgita, well-known
Sankhya Yoga, There is a great description about
the "Stitapragna". A person who is unruffled.
Stitapragna. And various characters of Stitapragna
- Lord Krishna goes on saying one of the characteristic
of Stitapragna is "Yanisha Sarva Bhoothanam,
Tasyaam Jagrithi BhoothanSa nish pashyato mune.
Stitapragna, is when others are awake, he is sleeping
and when others are sleeping he is awake. Now
what does it mean. Is Stitapragna suffering from
insomnia or what? No, if you look at it, at least
my interpretation of Bhagavadgita is Yanisha sarva
Bhuthanam,
Stitapragna is able to take a contrarian view. He
is able to take a original view. He is able to
take a view that is view things which others are
not seeing.Of course, what is genious, what is
originality, what is imagination? Your capacity
to see things before others could do it. For example,
all our Indians eat pan. But pan is always a wet
product. But someone said why can’t pan
be a dry product? We have got pan masala started.
Of course, so many other things have happened.
But pan masala became a Rs.100 crore - Rs.200
crore business.
By being with simple concept, something as Kurian
says’ everyone looks at Milk as a liquid
form. But you can see milk not only in the liquid
form, but also in the form of powder etc. Now,
we are hearing about space. The people who go
in space. Tourism has also started a type of packaging
three or five layers of aluminium foil. So that
you can produce sambar today and after 6 months
adding little water and make sambar. You see!
the technologies have been developed. It changes
the whole nature. So,when we talk about Stitapragna,
what we appreciate is a capacity to think in a
different way. So, now we are going to be in the
next few minutes looking at Vigilance which we
traditinally look at it as a nuisance. As per
Mukesh Ambani, if the Public Sector Enterprises
are removed from the CVC etc. they will also be
doing wonderful things like in Reliance.
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Now the question is Is it so? After all what as a
CVC I have done? One of the things I have done
as I have mentioned also is first to realise that
the decision making in Public Sector Enterprise
is different from the Government so, we have a
separate chapter in the Vigilance Manual. We have
said what is a Vigilance angle and what is not
a vigilance angle. Secondly, I have always been
saying that somebody else has understood it well
and put a banner there .
So basically you have to take many a time decisions.
I have myself gone on record and written. If you
want to implement a project of time over-run and
cost over-run, just as you cannot make omlette
without breaking eggs, we cannot complete project
without time over run and cost ove run. Without
breaking some rule some where or the other. But
when you break these rules, you make it a point
to record the reason why you had taken that decision.
The problem is many of us are busy in doing things
but then after one week or so, if you precisely
ask him why you took that particular decision,
you are not able to recall because human memory
is very short. Because, when CAG comes at the
end of 2 years and does the review, you have a
problem. So this is one of things as I have been
facing. You can break the rule with proper reason
etc. there should be no malice then you can. Of
course, this is the second thing.
Then one of the things I have done is that I would
like to mention again that to prevent the culture
of blackmail because, in our country, particularly,
Government of India, Public Sector Undertakings,
Banks etc. the minute you are due for promotion,
anonymous, petition will start pouring in. And
in the early days before 29th June,99, when I
issued the order - the rule that unless the facts
are there which could be verified, it should be
verified. Otherwise, anonymous petition should
not be done. So everybody said Mr. Vittal met
Mr. Ramachandran at Hyderabad this day the 6th
of June which thereafter we will say Mr. Ramachandran
has given so much you see.
Recently MP wrote to the Parliament for every appointmentof
CMD and Directors a lot of money is being paid
to me. I must be a very rich man. I am very happy.
The SCOPE has written a letter to Prime Minister
aying it is a total insult to the Public Sector
that they are getting vigilance clearance that
they are brib.
Stitapragna is able to take a contrarian view. He
is able to take a original view. He is able to
take a view that is view things which others are
not seeing.Of course, what is genious, what is
originality, what is imagination? Your capacity
to see things before others could do it. For example,
all our Indians eat pan. But pan is always a wet
product. But someone said why can’t pan
be a dry product? We have got pan masala started.
Of course, so many other things have happened.
But pan masala became a Rs.100 crore - Rs.200
crore business.
By being with simple concept, something as Kurian
says’ everyone looks at Milk as a liquid
form. But you can see milk not only in the liquid
form, but also in the form of powder etc. Now,
we are hearing about space. The people who go
in space. Tourism has also started a type of packaging
three or five layers of aluminium foil. So that
you can produce sambar today and after 6 months
adding little water and make sambar. You see!
the technologies have been developed. It changes
the whole nature. So,when we talk about Stitapragna,
what we appreciate is a capacity to think in a
different way. So, now we are going to be in the
next few minutes looking at Vigilance which we
traditinally look at it as a nuisance. As per
Mukesh Ambani, if the Public Sector Enterprises
are removed from the CVC etc. they will also be
doing wonderful things like in Reliance.
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Now the question is Is it so? After all what as a
CVC I have done? One of the things I have done
as I have mentioned also is first to realise that
the decision making in Public Sector Enterprise
is different from the Government so, we have a
separate chapter in the Vigilance Manual. We have
said what is a Vigilance angle and what is not
a vigilance angle. Secondly, I have always been
saying that somebody else has understood it well
and put a banner there .
So basically you have to take many a time decisions.
I have myself gone on record and written. If you
want to implement a project of time over-run and
cost over-run, just as you cannot make omlette
without breaking eggs, we cannot complete project
without time over run and cost ove run. Without
breaking some rule some where or the other. But
when you break these rules, you make it a point
to record the reason why you had taken that decision.
The problem is many of us are busy in doing things
but then after one week or so, if you precisely
ask him why you took that particular decision,
you are not able to recall because human memory
is very short. Because, when CAG comes at the
end of 2 years and does the review, you have a
problem. So this is one of things as I have been
facing. You can break the rule with proper reason
etc. there should be no malice then you can. Of
course, this is the second thing.
Then one of the things I have done is that I would
like to mention again that to prevent the culture
of blackmail because, in our country, particularly,
Government of India, Public Sector Undertakings,
Banks etc. the minute you are due for promotion,
anonymous, petition will start pouring in. And
in the early days before 29th June,99, when I
issued the order - the rule that unless the facts
are there which could be verified, it should be
verified. Otherwise, anonymous petition should
not be done. So everybody said Mr. Vittal met
Mr. Ramachandran at Hyderabad this day the 6th
of June which thereafter we will say Mr. Ramachandran
has given so much you see.
Recently MP wrote to the Parliament for every appointmentof
CMD and Directors a lot of money is being paid
to me. I must be a very rich man. I am very happy.
The SCOPE has written a letter to Prime Minister
saying it is a total insult to the Public Sector
that they are getting vigilance clearance that
they are bribing the CIBs. In this country, people
are prepared to believe anything and this is some
member who has written to Prime Minister and so
I am not bothered at all because, in Tamil , there
is a proverb "When you have something in
your pocket, you have to worry, otherwise no problem".
I can openly talk about it. But now we are on
this issue. What is CVC coming in the way of competitiveness
of Public Sector. We have to look into quality.
We have to look into Productivity. We have to
remove from our minds that whether Vigilance comes
in the way of competitiveness, it is not because
why is it CVC should be there, why not BHEL be
free like any other company? Because it is Public
Sector Undertaking.
The Moment the Public equity goes below 51%, I will
say CVC has no role to play. Because under article
12 of the constitution, it is not a state. It
is not a public enterprise. Now there is a debate
going on in the banking sector. For example Mr.Yashwant
Sinha has said even if they reduce the Government
equity to Banks to 30% the Public Sector character
will not change. I do not know. Like the smile
of the cat in the Wonderland. The cat disappears
but the smile of the cat remains. So, the reason
why CVC has to exist or CAG has to exist on behalf
of the the tax payers of the country for those
who have invested in these enterprises to ensure
proper things are followed. Financial propriety
in the case of CAG, Vigilance in the case of corruption,
mal-practices in the case of CVCs, we look into.
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So the reason for CVC being there cannot be avoided
so long as the Public Sector character is there.
Secondly, within that limitation, we have already
said that we made a distinction between Public
Sector and rest of the Government. We have a separate
chapter in the vigilance manual introduced in
July,1999. Then we have gone one step forward
and announced that anonymous or pseudonymous petitions
will not be entertained to that extent. It is
a protection to honest people that they will not
be harassed, subjecting them to blackmail. The
only way, we can come into picture, suppose a
public sector has to bribe by way of engaging
a consultant to get a particular order, now various
forms are there. Corruption has many forms. There
is a Hindi poet who says "Dhanwatu Rishwat
Rani - Anginat tere naam. Haq Paani, Bakshis,
Bhet, Rishwat, - Ghoos inaam nazar nazaraana -
pagadi tere kaaran ao meike income tagdi."
So this is the different type of corruption. But
CVC will not agree.
So one aspect of when we are doing the exercise of
contrarian thinking is that ,don’t look
upon vigilanceas it is there, only to prevent
you from acting. It is performing a function because
it is public sector and it is tax payer’s
money that is involved. Somebody has to look after,
that is why CVC is existing. But within the limitations,
we have to intervene. That is a negative way to
look at it. But then after all it is a business
enterprise.
The question will be can vigilance contribute to
the bottom line of the Company. Can vigilance
contribute to the quality of a company. Can vigilance
contribute to the competitiveness of the company?
Can vigilance contribute to the productivity of
the company? So, if these questions are raised,
how do we answer them? Is it true? No here I would
say, actually, I wrote a piece which I have mentioned
in the paper that do you know in my office CVC
is charging to Government of India ? We have spent
Rs. 4 crores for CVC establishment. But we have
one organisation called CTE, Chief Technical Examiner.
As a result of the defects pointed out and the
money recovered, last year alone was Rs.7.8 crores.
So in other words, CVC as a vigilance organisation
is not a burden on the cash resources of Government
of India. In fact it is a small revenue generator.
Now take that in the context of Public enterprise.
If a vigilance administration is effective, the
detecting scope for loss of revenue by preventing
your bad practices, for ex. in quality let us
say suppose there are mal-practices going on in
purchase, if as a result of mal-practices or corruption,
you end up buying third rate stuff, inputs naturally
you are going to lose some quality. The vigilance
is alert and we are preventing purchase of this
third rate stuff , to that extent, vigilance is
directly contributing to the quality of the product
and competitiveness. So, this is one aspect.
Similarly, the way we go into productivity aspect,
wastage aspects for ex. I’ll talk about
the Government. We spent about 15000 crores of
rupees subsidy in the public distribution system.
Rationing system. And do you know 31% of this
for food grains, 36% of this goes into the black
market. That means Rs.5000 crores worth of subsidy
goes into the black market.
We all know what Rajiv Gandhi said about the Rural
Development Programme. IRDP Integrated Rural Development
Programme. It is said, out of every rupee meant
for the beneficiary, only 15 paise goes to the
beneficiary, remaining 85%, part of it may be
40% for administration, 45% is corruption. So
people say, IRDP means not Integrated Rural Development
Programme but "Idhar Rishwat Dena Padega"
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So, you can therefore see from a business point of
view that having alert vigilance in reducing wastage,
in making optimum use of the resources, you have
so that you get the better value for money in
your inputs, so that your quality does not suffer,
your productivity does not suffer, therefore your
competitiveness increases. But then competitiveness
doesn’t increase only from that. We have
now seen what well known successful people in
business say. The other day, I was presiding over
Ashim Premji’s lecture. I told you aout
Mukesh Ambani’s lecture. The same series
of lectures a couple of months ago. Hashim Premji
of Wipro was asked to talk on lessons learnt in
breeding a world class organisation in India for
which BHEL is very relevant. BHEL today is essentially
an India Enterprise which can become a global
enterprise.
Is there any lesson we can learn from Hashim Premji?
He says in 5 points his experience in building
WIPRO into a global enterprise. He says 5 things
are important. First is Vision. There has to be
a clear vision. What you want to do. Second is
Values. We have certain values. Value for our
money. Then it is being exploited. This is possible
during the days of the Permit Licence Raj.
And one of my friends in Gujarat used to say who
is a Customer? "Kashth se jo mar jaata hai"
wo hai customer. Because customer has no choice.
But today why are we talking about quality? Competitiveness
and productivity - because after 4 decades of
the per mit licence raj in 1991, Government of
India has adopted a market oriented economy macro
economic management policy. Therefore, public
sector enterprises also are facing competition.
Others are facing competition, for ex. The QA,
WTO, The qualitative restrictions have gone. So
competition means that you must be able to satisfy
the customer. The Customer has got a choice. He
has, not only within the country but also anywhere
in the world. So, in this revised context, what
people like Hashim Premji say, they are saying
5 things. We have to learn (1) Vision (2) Values
(3) Leadership - Build leadership within the organisation
(4) Leadership for innovation and (5) Social responsibility.
Of all things, Wipro has started focusing on primary
education in rural areas. This year onwards they
are going to contribute on that.
Now take in the context of BHEL. I think what is
this value they are talking of. Let us take very
successful Manager. Manager of 20th
Century, Jack Welsch of GE. I have read 2 books
of him third book I am now reading. One book is
Jack Welsch speaks. Third book is to be read.
He says excellence and competitiveness are totally
compatible with honesty and integrity. Repeat.
So in the context of BHEL, which has already got
an excellent track record, so excellence and competitiveness.
You know you have got excellence . Now you have
to be competitive. Now in your competitiveness,
is CVC insistent on honesty and integrity?Is it
coming in the way ? It is not? Actually Jack Welsch
says in his book that they employ 2,60,000 people
and it is like a small town in American context.
Now, 2,60,000 in American context will have a
police department etc. He says we don’t
have a Police Department. We don’t regulate
morals to the people. Then how do we ensure? It
is only by inculcating the values of integrity,
the company’s vision etc. they are able
todo. So he says ! Excellence and competitiveness
are totally compatible to honesty and integrity.
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The A student, the four minute miler, the high jump
record holder, all strong winners - can achieve
those results without resorting to cheating. People
who cheat are simply weak. If you are corrupt.
If you are adopting corrupt practices, what is
the corrupt person doing? He is really cheating.
And what is corruption? The world bank says corruption
is "using public office work for private
profit". You are supposed to do public service
but you are using to enrich yourself. In sanskrit
those who are knowledgeful, they are called "Sakshara"
But if the knowledge is misused then it misused,
then it becomes opposite of ‘Sakshara’
in reverse it is ‘Rakshasa’. Every
corrupt person is nothing but a Rakshasa. This
country is having Rakshasa Raj.
Today, corruption therefore can be seen in a business
context. As Jack Welsch points out people who
cheat are simply weak. He gives an example A professor
gave a hypothetical case to his business school
students. He said if you are running a business
for a large company and were about to book a 50
million dollar order but do so, you have to deposit
a billion dollars in a Swiss Bank account to an
agent. Would you do it? Approximately 40% to 50%
said they would. The students. I was shocked.
Jack Welsch says the Management School is shocked.
I told the students some one was teaching them
the wrong things. This was not one of those days
where you have to interpret the law. This was
simply a bribery case. And finally Jack Welsch
says in the end, your integrity is all that you
have got. Therefore, today, if we have to talk
about competitive environment with BHEL as base.
We must have competitiveness, quality and productivity
policy. Therefore, public sector enterprises also
are facing competition.
Vigilance was ensuring that you practice integrity.
And people like Jack Welsch concluded in their
own way, Hashim Premji talks about excellence
and integrity in a different context is successful.
If you see successfulness you have to go beyond.
Two references I give. One is the book "In search
of Excellence by Peterson and Waterman. There
are 8 excellent companies Peterson and Waterman
have identified. One of the characterists of the
excellent company is - Hands on Value driven.
Practice day-after-day. Not merely observing during
Vigilance Awarness week, something like that.
Some people ask me Sir, after all there are 52
weeks. And only one week that is on Sirdar Patel’s
Birthday on 31st October for Vigilance Awareness.
That means for the remaining 51 weeks you are
free.
I said no. It is only a beginning. The journey of
1000 miles starts with a single step. Now this
is what Peterson and Warman told about Excellent
Companies in 1982. Somewhere in 90s, there is
another book called ‘ Built to lost’
by two people Jeramy Foras from Stanford University
and James Collins. Now they identified about a
company normally an American Company which is
about 15 to 20 years.
Some companies like Coca Cola, IBM, 3M . These companies
exist. GE already exists from 119 years started
with Thomal Alwa Edisons. Now what is the difference
between the normal company which dies within 15
to 20 years. And these large companies lasting
for over 100 years etc. are normally visionary
companies. So they wrote this book called "Built
to Lost" What is the secret of this long
lasting companies. And one of the secrets they
found was these companies have certain core values.
For IBM, it may be customer. For 3M, it may be
Innovation.
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Everywhere there is integrity. Unless you earn the
trust of the customer, you are not going to be
in business for a long time. So again you come
back to values. What is the visionary company
which lasted for 100 years and the one which did
not last. Of course, we can say merely, lasting
for 100 years is not a qualification. But suppose
suddenly there is an atom bomb. Mushraf is coming
with an atom bomb. I hope he will not put a bomb
here. Suppose an atom bomb is put in Hyderabad,
all of us will die. But the Cockroaches of Hyderabad
will survive. Because cockroaches aresurviving.
It doesn’t mean cockroaches are greater
than humanbeings. Because you are surviving with
100 years doesn’t mean that you are better
than small companies,. which lived a shorter life
like Markandeya. Because, we are in a business
environment, professors have taken market capitalisation
of these companies. Ordinary companies and big
companies 1915 of stock exchange and 1980-85.
These visionary companies had 15 times more market
captalisation, otherwise you cannot exist. Again
that all because of quality, competitiveness and
productivity exists.
So you can therefore see there is a corelation between
sucess in a market place in a competitive market
place by focusing on values. Then we come to the
final question How do we survive? Let us assume
one day BHEL will also be disinvested and there
will be no vigilance. Even in that situation,
can BHEL be like GE. BHEL be a visionary company
? Can BHEL be a successful global company? I would
draw attention to the basic issue that we must
be able to take ethical decision. How do you take
ethical decisions when there is no Vigilance Manual?
There is no CVC to chase you. How do you take
decisions? Now here I would draw attention to
a book called a "Power of Ethical Management
by Norman Wilson and Kenith Branshaw - and the
wellknown book on Power of Positive thinking.
The other book Kenith has brought out is the book
on One Minute Manager. Both these people have
written a 138 book. I think eery BHEL employee
should read that book. This book you can read
just in a day. In that it says how do you take
business decisions in ethical manner and how do
we build ehical organisations. I am only trying
to focus on ethical decision part. Individual
part and organisational part you can read in that
book .
You would like BHEL to be an ethical organisation
because then only we can produce quality, competitiveness
and productivity. The three things . For example
you take Innovation.. You apply a three way test.
First thing is the desision legal? If what you
are deciding is not legal, then it is not ethical.
Then it is finished. So, is it legal? (2) Is it
fair? That for ex. suppose you enter into an agreement
or contract with any party , think , Is this contract
weighed more in favour of your company or against
the other fellow? Or is it weighed more than other
person than yourself? Because, afterall how do
corruption flourishes? Suppose, in a purchase
decision, you pay more actually the company is
losing and the other person is gaining. It is
an unfair decision. Is it fair on both sides.
Because after all is it legal? Is it fair?
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And the third one is if tomorrow this decision is
publicised, will you feel ashamed. Why Tehelka.com
has become so exciting? If tomorrow what you are
doing and what ever decision you have taken is
made public, you will feel ashamed. In Christianity,
there are ten commandments. Thou shall not kill....
I am told there is a 11th commandment.
You can violate all the 10 commandments. Thou
shall not be found out. Because once you are found
out, then you are gone. So that is the third test.
Is the decision whatever taken whether it is business
life or personal life is it legal? Is it fair
and if it is known outside will you feel ashamed?
Ofcourse you will say Sir, I have lost all the
sense of shame. I am not ashamed. Then of course
what type of a person you are.
Why should we have an ethical life? Because as BHEL
becomes a globally competitive company, one problem
it is going to face is how to attract and retain
talent. If 40% of the Reliance people are from
Public Sector, Reliance probably offer better
than Public Sector. So they all migrated. Now
Public Sector cannot give that sort of a money.
In this situation, even if you tied up, why are
we talking about integrity. Because if your organisation
is an ethical organisation, if you maintain highest
standard of integrity, every person in the organisation
gets a sense of pride.
I belong to a company where there is certain value.
Take private sector. There is a company called
"Alacrity" in Madras Chennai. This builds
houses. Now this Mr. Karnard is in construction
line. You know, in real estate, it is 60% black
and 40% white. He said I am going to take only
by cheque all the payments and it has got such
a reputation today that one youngster went to
an Officer and the officer demanded bribe. The
youngster has shown his identity. Then the Officer
told why did you not tell me before that you are
from Alacrity? If you are from Alacrity, I wouldn’t
have asked . So even in corrupt India, when Corrupt
Officers are demanding money, but if you are from
a famous company which has a reputation for integrity
and straightforwardness, even a corrupt officer
does not demand. Because, after all many a time
corruption is two way. It is not one hand clapping.
Imagining the impact in the young man’s mind
in terms of morale. Will he not be proud that
he belongs to that company that has such a good
reputation. Now HRD people in every enterprise
has a problem in attracting skill and retaining
the talent. The organisation’s strenth is
not only its quality and people but the values
of its system, built naturally by the people who
are working in the organisation will have high
morale and naturally they are loyal to the company.
And once they are loyal to the company they will
also come up with ideas etc.
Because ultimately the competitiveness today in the
country comes from imagination. In today’s
theme. Emerging Challenges for Vigilance - Vigilance
for Quality , Competitiveness and productivity.
We realise that terming Vigilance to Duryodhana
is looking at all negative side, instead of looking
at the positive aspect of doing what in the Bhagwatgita
- What the Stitapragna is supposed to do.
Can you find that the Vigilance can help you to take
ethical decisions? It can help to improve the
morale of the organisation. It can help to attract
and retain talent? It can help to improve competitiveness?
And contribute also to savings, thereby productivity
and profitability of the organisation. So ultimately
what is therefore needed is you remember in the
last sloka of BNhagaatgita - You need to have
a Vision and Action.
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Mere vision will not do. Actually, I read one of
the internet jokes. I always like work. I go to
office and keep on looking at my work. I am not
working but just looking at my work. So it is
not what is needed.
The last sloka says. Yatra Yogeshwara Krishna Yatra
Partho Dhanurdharaha. Yatra Yogeshwara means (poorna
purush) Divine Vision. That alone cannot save
our country. But Yatra Partho Dhanurdhara means
Arjuna. He is a great Archer. Man of Action. When
Vision and Action are combined then three things
happen. Thathra Sri Vijayo Bhutir Sri means ‘Wealth’
and Vijay means success. Dhruva neethir mathirova.
Neethi is Justice. Because you combine Vision
with Action, you get wealth. You get success and
you get Justice. Naturally whatever you do, you
will be able to succeed in every activity that
you will undertake.
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